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¶85–¶89 That’s the very reason, when I go to the platform, in churches, no one has never heard me mention those things on platform, those issues. I just let them alone. See, that’s up to the, you men. See? I’m here to help you win souls to Christ, by a Divine gift, you see. See? It don’t make any difference…You do your baptizing. But then when it come… Course, I’ve been called everything. I’ve been called, I don’t know how many, anywhere from a—a “incarnate son of God” down to a— a “devil.” That’s right, everything. But, at the back of it all, I’m your brother, fellow citizen of the Kingdom of God; working with you all, for the Kingdom. And that is true. Now I’ll, if it’s all right, and you think we have enough time, I’d like to tell you how we discussed that. Would it be all right, brethren, just for a minute, Brother, Brother Ness and them? All right. And it might be a little bit that would help you. It’d help you to understand, kind of. I wrote down, here, some of the things that I remember they took off there. And so they asked me, what did I believe about the “trinity,” did I believe that there was a “trinity” of God? Now, brethren, when we approach this, I hope that, when this is over, that we’ll be the same brothers that we’ve been all along. See? But I feel that I owe it to you, because your people comes to my meetings, and I certainly wouldn’t want to send one of them away, deceived.
¶104–¶107 And I made that a practice, to know this: that, if a man, no matter what he does, and how much he differens, and what he says about me; if in my heart, not from just a duty, but from my heart I can’t love that man as well as I love anyone else, then I know there’s something wrong in here, see. That’s right, because, it’s—it…no matter if he… A little brother come, not long ago, a little Church of Christ brother. And, oh, he stood up there, and he said, “This guy is a devil.” See? He said, “He says of the Holy Ghost.” He said, “There is no such a thing. They, well, only the twelve apostles received the Holy Ghost. And— and Divine healing was only give to those twelve apostles.” And went on, about a half hour. And I said, “Just a moment, brother. I think you ought to give me just a chance to defend This, see.” I said, “You said that you spoke where the Bible spoke, and was silent where It was silent.” And he said, “We do.” I said, “Now, you said there was just the twelve apostles received the Holy Ghost. The Bible said, ‘There was a hundred and twenty in the upper room when the Holy Ghost fell, women and all.’ And would you mind to tell me, do you think Paul didn’t have the Holy Ghost? And he received It a long time after that, see. And you said, ‘The gift of healing was only give to the twelve apostles.’ And Stephen went down, a few days later, and he wasn’t one of the twelve. He was not even a preacher. He was a deacon, and went down to Samaria and cast out devils.” And I said, “Oh, brother!” It was very silent right here, yeah, where you had to keep it.
¶122–¶126 So I said, “Brother Ness, not to be different…” Now I’m going to…Is it all right to use this, brother? [The brother says, “Sure.”—Ed.] I said, “I want to say and explain.” And, in this, I might say to you brethren here. Now, don’t mention this amongst your congregations. If you will, and do me a favor, just—just—just let me just be your brother. You see? And I, and if—if I am wrong, then you forgive me. But I want to explain to you, being that there is both groups sitting here this morning, of both the Oneness and the—the Assemblies, also, and the trinitarian belief. Now I want to make this statement. I want to say that I believe that both sides are wrong, as long as they argue one with another, because their motives is wrong. And as long as your motives is wrong, no matter what your objective is, but your motives to that objective is wrong, then it’ll never work. That’s right. Now, some people have said, “Brother Branham, you are a Jesus Only.” I want to say that that is an error. I am not a Jesus Only. Somebody says, “Brother Branham, are you a Trinitarian?” No, sir. I am not a Trinitarian. I’m a Christian. See? I—I—I don’t…The word trinitarian don’t even mention in the Bible, the word “trinity.” And I do not believe that there is three individual Gods. I believe there is one God in three offices: Father, Son, Holy Ghost. That’s exactly why we were commissioned to baptize in the Name of Father, Son, Holy Ghost. I believe that it’s God condescending, coming down.
¶157–¶162 Now, to you different brethren here, you watch this just a minute and you see what I’m trying to point at. I pray that God will let you see it. Now, look, you both believe the same thing, but the devil has just got between you and broke you up about it. It’s exactly the same thing, and I’ll prove it to you, by the help of God, and with God’s Bible. If it ain’t the Bible, then don’t receive it. That’s right. But now look. This is (what?) God the Father; this is God the Son; this is God the Holy Ghost. Well, now, let’s stop now just a minute, laying those three out there; God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Oh, I—I ain’t going to have time to do this. I…[The brethren say, “Go ahead! Go ahead!”—Ed.] But, see, well, I’ll hurry just as quick as I can. Forgive me, my brethren, but I—I—I’ve never got to talk to you, and I—I want to do this. And then, look; God the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost. Now, Who was the Father of Jesus Christ? God was the Father of Jesus Christ. We all believe that. Is that right? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.] All right. Now, when we take Matthew 28:19, when Jesus said, “Go ye therefore, teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost,” ten days afterwards, Peter said, “Repent, and be baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.” There’s a straight contradiction somewhere. Now, let’s don’t…there’s a… Everybody has testified, and things. Here it is. Here is my belief, and I’m just laying out before you, brethren. I don’t say this out in the pulpits; it’s up to you. But I want to show you what I see on both sides, so the Holy Spirit reveal it to you, see.
¶177–¶183 Now, there’s no place where…If any man can show me one text of Scripture where that ceremony was used in the Bible, of “Father, Son, Holy Ghost,” you’re obligated to come tell me where somebody was baptized like that. And some of them say, “Well, I’ll take what Jesus said, not what Peter said.” If they were contrary, one to another, what are we going to do? If it all ain’t God, what part of the Bible is right? It’s all got to coincides and come together, and only the revelation of God. Our schools will never teach it. It’s a revelation, that you must see It. Then, if them two men were contrary, one to another, then what kind of a Bible are we reading? How do I know whether John 14 is right, or not? How do I know whether John 3 is right, or not? How, how, how do I know? See? But the only way that I can have faith in God, is to know that that Bible is right, and believe It’s right, and stay right with It. Though I don’t understand It, I move It, anyhow. But when these contradictions comes up, then I go before God, to find out. And the same Angel that meets me in the meeting, and at night, is the same One Who taught me This. See? Now see if this is, how this is now. Now, Matthew 28:19, let’s watch just a moment now. And now I’m going to take Acts 2:38 right here, where Peter said, “The Lord Jesus Christ.” And Matthew said, “Father, Son, Holy Ghost.”
¶184–¶189 Now listen. He said, “Baptize them…” Not “in the name of the Father, in the name of the Son, in the name of the Holy Ghost.” He never said that. There’s no “name…in name…in name.” He never said, “Baptize them in the names of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,” ’cause it’s not even sensible. He said, “Baptize them in the Name (N-a-m-e) of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” Is that right? “…of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,” the conjunction, “and, and, and.” Not, names. Not, “in the name of the Father, name of the Son, name of the Holy Ghost.” Not, “in the names of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” But, “in the Name,” N-a-m-e, singular, “of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” Now, which one of them is the right name to baptize in? It’s one Name. Which one is? Is “Father” the right name, or is “Son” the right name, or is “Holy Ghost” the right name? It’s a “Name,” somewhere. Is that right? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.] Well, now I want to ask you something, then. If the “Name,” then, if Jesus said, “Baptize them in the Name of the Father, Son, and Ghost…” How many believes that Jesus said that? [“Amen.”] That’s the Scripture. It’s Matthew 28:19, “In the Name of the Father, Son…” [Brother Branham sees a distraction—Ed.] Is something that we… No, it’s, I thought…All right, sir. [A brother says, “Excuse me, Brother Branham?”] Yeah. [“I want to change this tape over, and I don’t want to miss it.”] All right. [Blank spot on tape.]…?…
¶197–¶202 Well, if Jesus said, Jesus Christ the Son of God, which said, “Go ye therefore, teach all nations, baptizing them into the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,” and neither Father, Son, or Holy Ghost is a name, then, if it’s a puzzle, we better go back to the first of the Book. Now let’s turn back to the 1st chapter of Matthew, and we’ll start there, gives the genealogies, till it comes down to the 18th verse. Now watch, now watch just a minute. This is Father, on my right side; this in the middle is Son; and this is the Holy Ghost. Now, this is the Father of Jesus Christ. Is that right? God is the Father of Jesus Christ. We all believe that? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.] All right. Now Matthew 1:18 said: Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When…his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before she…they came together, she was found with a child of the…[Congregation says, “Holy Ghost.”—Ed.] I thought God was His Father. And she shall bring forth a son,…they shall call his name JESUS:… And Joseph her husband, being a just man,…not willingly to make her a publick example, but minded to put her away privily. On this wise, while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the…[Congregation says, “Holy Ghost.”—Ed.] I thought God was His Father. Now, has He got two fathers, brethren? [“No.”] He can’t have. If He was, He was a bastard child, and what kind of a religion have we got there? You’ve got to admit that God the Father and the Holy Ghost is the same-self Spirit. Sure, It is. Sure, It’s the same-self Spirit. Now, we got done, and see that. And she shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from his sin. …this was all done, that it might be fulfilled…
¶203–¶209 I’m quoting Scripture. You ministers know, as I go. …that it might be fulfilled…spoke the prophet, by the Lord, saying, …a virgin shall conceive, and…bring forth a child, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which is by interpretation,…[Congregation says, “God with us.”—Ed.] “God with us!” Is that right? Then what is the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? [A brother says, “Jesus Christ.”—Ed.] Well, certainly. That’s the reason Peter baptized them in the Name of “Jesus Christ.” But, I don’t care, if you’re baptized in the name of Rose of Sharon, Lily of the Valley, the Morning Star, that’s titles, too. If your heart is right towards God, He knows your heart. But now, now, I expressed that. Now, now I said…Now Brother Scism said, “Now!” Course, sure, that looked like Oneness, so he was right in for that. Now I said, “Now here I want to say something to you now.” See? I said, “Now I want to prove to you that these, both men, said the same thing.” Now, Matthew said, “In the Name of the Father.” Is that right? [The congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.] All right. And Peter said, “In the Name of the Lord.” Matthew 28:19 said, “In the Name of the Father,” and Acts 2:38 said, “In the Name of the Lord.” David said, “The LORD said unto my Lord.” Who was It? Father and Lord is the same Name. David said, “The LORD said unto my Lord, ‘Sit Thou on My right hand.’” See, “In the Name of the Father; in the Name of the Lord.”
¶210–¶219 And Matthew said, “In the Name of the Son,” and Peter said, “In the Name of Jesus.” Who is the Son? Jesus. “In the Name of the Holy Ghost,” was Matthew; and Peter said, “In the Name of Christ,” the Logos. Father, Son, Holy Ghost, “Lord Jesus Christ.” Why, it’s just as perfect as it can be. See? Brother Scism said to me, or, Brother Scism, the Oneness brother, he said, “Brother Branham, that’s right, but,” he said, “that is this.” I said, “Then, this is that.” That’s right. See? I said, “If that’s this, this is that. So what are you fussing about?” I said, “Let me recommend to you, brethren. If I ever baptize a person, here is what…” I said, “Now, here is Dr. Ness.” And you…somebody said, a while ago, you brethren, that you knew Dr. Ness. Well, I’ll say, here, Brother Hicks here, he has a…I think you have a Doctor Degree. Is that right? All right. Now I said, “If Dr. Ness, sitting here…” Now I said, “If I wanted…” Now, when I take a person to the water, to baptize them, I recognize it just like he did, I said, “That was titles that went to His Name.” I said, “Now, the Assembly brothers are using titles, and the Oneness brother are using Name.” I said, “Now I’m going to prove to you, you’re both wrong, and I’m right.” You know how you’ll have to…You have men under strain that way, you have to have a little sense of humor once in a while, to kind of unwind a little. So I said, “I’m going to prove to you that you’re both wrong, and I’m right.”
¶220–¶226 I said, “Now what if I wanted to regard Brother Ness, I would say…” Or, or Brother Hicks here, see. I’d say, “Hicks!” Now, would that sound nice? No. Well, what if I’d say, “Doctor! Hey, Doc! What about it?” Now, that sounds irreverent, doesn’t it? “When,” I said, “that’s the way you Assemblies do, see. When you Assembly brothers say, ‘In the name of the Father, and of the Son, the Holy Ghost,’ you just say, ‘in the name of the reverend, doctor.’” And I said, “Then, you Oneness brethren, when you baptize, you say, ‘Jesus!’” They don’t use… They, Jesus Only, just use the name “Jesus.” There is just many Jesuses. But, It’s the Lord Jesus Christ, you see. There is many… Baptize in the name of “Jesus,” I certainly don’t go for that; there is no Scripture. You get the original, see if it ain’t “Lord Jesus Christ.” Certainly, He’s the Lord Jesus Christ. There’s many Jesuses, certainly. And the Christ is the “Anointed.” I said, “Now, if I was going to say the same thing to Brother Ness. I’d say, would it sound right for me to say, ‘Hey, Ness!’?” I said, “That’s the way you Oneness would say it. See? Wouldn’t that be a irreverent disregards for that man who has studied, and he’s got a Doctor’s Degree? If he has studied hard for that, he ought to be titled that.” And I said, “Then if I said, ‘Hey, Doc!’” I said, “Wouldn’t that sound flat, for a minister to address another one?” Or, I said, “That’s just the way that you do it, only the side by the title.”
¶227–¶234 But I said, “When I take a man to the water, I walk up there and ask him, and talk, and get his name and whoever he is, and his faith. “Then I pray, and say, ‘Now, Father, as Thou has commissioned us to “go unto all the world and make disciples of all nations,…”’” You brethren know that’s the original, see. “‘“…make disciples of all nations, baptizing them into the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe whatever things that Thou has…all things that Thou hast taught us.”’” “So then I said, ‘Upon your confession of faith; upon your confession of your sins, and your faith in the Son of God, I baptize thee, my beloved brother, in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.’” I said, “That’s the way I baptize. I both recognize His titles, what He was, both Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. And the reason Jesus said that, was…” Now look. If—if that isn’t so, you got a contradiction in your Scripture; you’ve got a contradiction. And what are you going to do when…What if this Buddhist brother would rise up and say that, “What about this?” What’d they say when they told me… Over there, when this Indian brother challenged Morris Reidhead, and said to him, said, “What about Mark 16?” He had to crawfish on it. You don’t have to crawfish on nothing. That’s God’s Word. Stay with It. Just pray. Get the revelation. It all runs the same. See, they’re both saying the thing, now; not titles; not flat. I said, “Now…”
¶253–¶256 He said, “You know what we’re going to do?” Said, “We’re drawing a little ring, and drawing you right out of our circle.” “Then,” I said, “I’m going to draw another one, and draw you right back in again.” I said, “You can’t draw me out, ’cause I love you. See, you just can’t do it.” I said, “There’s too many of your—your brethren out there that love me and believe in me.” I said, “You, I’ll—I’ll… They’ll come, anyhow.” I said, “They’ll come. And you can’t draw me out. If you draw me out, I’ll draw you back in.” I said, “When you make one circle, God, by His grace, will let me draw another and pull you right back again.” That’s right, draw them right back again. And, brother, oh, in Christ’s Name may I say this. I—I got…I know I’m holding up time here; and it’s just about almost time for closing, I guess, but let me just say this, see. And I said to that man, I said, “I would go with you as long as you would preach the Scriptures, and have love, and believe that—that… and preach and say you was baptizing people…not in the name of ‘Jesus,’ Jesus only. No, sir. I—I sure wouldn’t go for that, ’cause I’m acquainted with several Jesuses; know them in Africa and different places, people named Jesus. But if you’ll use the term of our ‘Lord Jesus Christ,’ I’ll go with you on that. That’s all right. I’ll stick by you. I think you should put ‘Father, Son, and Holy Ghost’ first, see, to get it right.” I said, “I think you should.” But he said, “Oh, no, no! That, that’s back at trinity.” I said, “It is not a trinity. It’s one God in three offices.”
¶257–¶261 It’s not a trinity, three Gods. We don’t have no three Gods. Certainly not. There’s no such a thing. Wasn’t taught in the Bible. And there’s only one God. “Hear ye, O Israel, I am the Lord your God.” One God! First commandment, “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.” Certainly, He is one God, not three. That’s a Catholic version of it; and it was, lead off from the Catholic to the Lutheran, and on down, and so forth, and it’s generally believed among people today that we have three Gods. And that’s where you’ll never…This Gospel will never go to the Jews…Which, I prophesied the other morning to a Jewish missionary there. You will never take a trinity God to a Jew. You will never do that. Which, he isn’t; he’s got better sense than that. See, he knows more about the Bible than that. But He’s never a triune God, to a—to a Jew. If you’ll let him know It’s the same Jehovah, he’ll receive it right now. Sure! That’s it, see. And I believe all this. As Joseph said, “Brethren, don’t be angry with yourself, because God has did this,” you see. For—for the thing that’s…So that it could wait till this time, that’s all, because our Gentile age is just about over. Now, I believe that with all of our heart. So do you see, my brethren? I’m trying to drive at something, that, this group of people, of men who has the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Aimee McPherson’s group, what did she do? She was first a Oneness, I believe; then come out and become Assembly; then pulled out and organized herself different; here not long ago, put in a little group, a little thing.
¶309–¶312 If there’s any baptizing to be done, you brethren do it, yourself, see. That’s, I—I don’t do. If I had, that’s the way I’ll baptize, the one like that. And either one of you can take it, see. So you can take the person, they’re baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and they’re baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, too. So if I ever baptize one…but I haven’t done it yet. I only baptize in my own church, and that’s just the people there. And that’s way the people at my church are baptized. And if you’ll look back, that’s the old Missionary ritual, the old Missionary Baptist ritual. And now if… That’s that. I believe in Divine healing. I believe in the baptism of the Holy Ghost. I believe in the—in the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues. I believe in every gift that God gave to His Church. I’m for them, one hundred percent. But I believe… I’m not in for a lot of this here super-duper healing that we have around today. I would just like to make a remark here. Some time ago there was a brother…And it isn’t my precious Brother Tommy Hicks, which I regard as a true servant of Christ. There was another man in another country, and in this country there was a…He was just, all the time, “God’s super-duper healer! Super-duper healer,” you know, like that. And I got a letter after the man had…from the Lutheran church. And my secretary here knows we have it on file. I wouldn’t call the man’s name, because it’s not Christian-like. Although, I disagree with the man’s ideas, but that’s perfectly all right. I love him. He is my brother.
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¶128–¶130 Now, he said, “But Brother Branham has been like a, in this discussion,” said, “wiggle out of everything, like the worm in the lemon.” But said, “I would like for him to wiggle out of this one.” And of course all debaters holds the keynote to the last part of it. So then he said, “At the baptism in Matthew 3, the display of three persons, absolutely three distinct persons: the Son standing on the bank; the Holy Ghost, like a dove, in between them; God the Father, speaking out of Heaven.” I said, “Sir, is that your keynote?” He said, “I want to hear you wiggle out of that one.” I said, “Sir, you just wiggle back and read the Scripture, way It reads.” I said, “That’s the only thing; you’re just misreading the Scripture to the people.” I said, “That is thinner than the broth made out of a shadow of a chicken that starved to death.” I said, “Why, you’re just…you’re—you’re—you’re making it wrong, brother. You’re misreading it to the people.” And I said, “Now, look here what the brother says.” Now, I’ll take it like this, like these I got: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Now, this here would be the Holy Ghost, that is wrote, “Son,” this is wrote, “Father.” Now, watch how they read that: “When Jesus was baptized…went straightway out of the water: lo, the heavens was opened unto Him, he saw the Spirit of God, like a dove, descending, and a Voice from Heaven, saying, ‘This is My beloved Son, in Whom I’m pleased to dwell.’” I said, “See, three beautiful illustrations: the Son on the ground, the Holy Ghost like a dove in between, and the Father out of Heaven speaking.” See how the devil can stand there and deceive a person, if you don’t have the revelation of God, if God isn’t merciful to us? We ought to be thankful.
¶135–¶137 The Spirit of God, like a dove, descended, and a Voice from Heaven, which was above Him, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am pleased to dwell.” Really, the right translation (They got the verb before the adverb, like all the foreigner.) is, “This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am pleased to dwell in.” Or, “Whom I am pleased to dwell.” “In Whom I am pleased to dwell.” That was God coming into Jesus, and in Him was the Fulness of the Godhead bodily. And there is your Father, Son and Holy Ghost: in the Name of Jesus Christ. Sure. Do you get it? There is no—there is no place in the Bible, speaks of three, it being three gods. There’s no such a thing. It’s absolutely pagan. It come from pagan. [A sister says, “Well, that does away with that trinity.”—Ed.] Yes. Well, surely, it…there…they… it’s just as—it’s just as bottomless as hell is. See? There’s no such a thing. [A sister says, “Billy Graham needs that.”] What say? [“Billy Graham needs that.”] Well, he wouldn’t…?…it. [A sister says, “I needed it too…?…”] Look, listen. It’s revealed to those who God calls and is predestinated by His foreknowledge. “All My sheep hear My Voice.” See? Look at them Jews standing there, just as scholarly as they could be, and Jesus showing them He was Messiah by Messianic sign. They said, “He’s Beelzebub.” How could…? They were blinded. Yeah, and a little ragged shepherd or a—or a fisherman down on the river, said, well, they knowed Him. See? He just…God has a way of doing things and we just have to cope with His way. I…Just be thankful that your eyes could be open to see truth.
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¶35–¶36a Just a few days ago, there was a man who has been—that lived next door to me, a Jehovah Witness. His little boy had been crippled up. And he brought him to a meeting. And the Holy Spirit called him way in the back of the meeting, twice the distance of this here, and told him who he was and where he come from, told him he was healed, THUS SAITH THE LORD. Watch the Spirit now. We’re taking tape recordings. Watch what the Spirit said. Brother Branham can say most anything, but the Holy Spirit’s always the Truth, and He will stay with the Word. And you put it down and see if it’s right. It’s THUS SAITH THE LORD. See? Now, and the man didn’t know what to do. And finally he said to the little boy, “Stand up, David.” And the little boy stood up perfectly normal and well. Today he…I said, “Which leg was that, David?” He said, “Mama, which one was it I was crippled in?”: infantile paralysis, drawed up. And, oh, the thousands of those things that’s happened. But anyhow, his brother came in the other day. Strictly Jehovah Witness. And if there be Jehovah Witness here, I’m not speaking against you, not at all. But he had been told that was of the devil. And then when his brother came down, I just happened to be in the room, his…The father of David had moved over and bought a little place next door to me. And so he works in the meetings a lots with me now, and selling books. He was a contractor, a very good, noted contractor. But he just quit his work to go in the work of the Lord. And he just travels around like that. And as soon as we got in front of the brother, the Holy Spirit begin to tell him his evil thing that he was doing. Said, “You’re married to a woman who is a tall, blond- headed woman. You’ve got two children by her; and you broke up a man’s home to get that woman, and now you’re breaking up another man’s home, a red-headed woman. You’re living with her in adultery.” He just almost fainted, took his breath.
¶36b–¶37 Nobody in the world knowed that but him and the woman. Said, “Who told you that.” I said, “Almighty God.” He said, “I now surrender my life to Almighty God. And it’s the truth, Mr. Branham.” There you are. He went and got his old daddy. His daddy come down. He was a reader, whatever it is in, a head, one of the big men in the Jehovah Witness. And he came down and said, “Oh,” he said, “I’m telling you.” Said, “I want to go fishing with you in the morning.” I never met him before. He said, “Well, I’ll tell you, the Jehovah’s Witness say that you’re a false prophet.” I said, “Well, they got the right to say whatever they want to.” I said, “But I want to know what God says about it.” So when we started down the road, I saw a vision. I said, “Now, Mr. Wood, I’ve got THUS SAITH THE LORD.” Said, “What do you mean?” I said, “Every stream of water we pass over, this hundred and sixty miles to this place, is going to be muddy. But when we come to the stream to Dale Hollow where we’re going to fish, there that stream will be perfectly blue. And it’ll come to pass that (I have never caught a catfish in that water yet), but, I’m going to catch a whole string of catfish, and you’re only going to catch one. Mr. Wood is going to catch one. Then I’m going to catch another fish. I didn’t see just what it was. It’s an outstanding fish, but it will be a scale fish. That’s THUS SAITH THE LORD.” He looked over to his boy and winked, went on.
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